Timeline for How can Internet Explorer 5 be emulated in 2020?
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| Jan 26, 2020 at 21:47 | answer | added | Aminadav Glickshtein | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jan 24, 2020 at 11:25 | answer | added | Paddy Landau | timeline score: 5 | |
| Jan 24, 2020 at 5:56 | comment | added | jeesoon | I have experienced the same thing, my customer ask if i can run their old system on newer windows operating system without using a virtual machine or older os. It is a web based system that needed an older version of IE. I install an older browser (firefox 2.0) side by side with newer IE, and install the necessary plugins, modify the useragent of firefox 2.0 and run the system. | |
| Jan 23, 2020 at 18:22 | comment | added | ScottWelker | ...and, don't forget that some customers aren't worth keeping. ( However, answers and comments here outline another path if you need or want to keep this customer. ) | |
| Jan 23, 2020 at 8:00 | comment | added | Sergey Grigorchuk | I would rather visit customer and upgrade their software/OS rather than dealing with this unbelievable nonsense. | |
| Jan 11, 2020 at 20:46 | comment | added | le3th4x0rbot | @Valorum At least it wasn't connected to the internet! | |
| Jan 11, 2020 at 15:08 | vote | accept | Mornon | ||
| Jan 10, 2020 at 19:10 | comment | added | Valorum | @Mornon - I recently encountered a company running their sales records on a BBC Micro. The owner had programmed the software himself. When I asked him about the risks, he proudly showed me the daily floppy backup and the (spare) brand new BBC Micro he'd bought at a car boot sale a decade ago, sat in a storage cupboard. It worked and he was happy with it. He saw no reason to change | |
| Jan 10, 2020 at 15:16 | comment | added | MonkeyZeus | @Roddy Question of the century right there! If IE11 in compatibility mode is good enough for the client then let them know you will be doing likewise or else the cost of testing will quickly balloon. | |
| Jan 10, 2020 at 11:38 | answer | added | Maaark | timeline score: 34 | |
| Jan 10, 2020 at 8:40 | comment | added | Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen | The customer may simply have to pay the full cost for maintenance - in this case wages for manual testing. That alone may provide incentive to start the migration, or simply move the application inside a Windows 98SE virtual machine for the end uses. | |
| Jan 10, 2020 at 4:26 | answer | added | John Keates | timeline score: 5 | |
| Jan 10, 2020 at 1:44 | comment | added | Shmuel | Have you considered OS based "automation" instead of browser based? Something along the lines of Keyboard & Mouse macro recorders? | |
| Jan 10, 2020 at 1:39 | comment | added | Roddy | If the customer is using IE 11 in compatibility mode, why not test the same? | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 22:33 | comment | added | Peter M. - stands for Monica | I hope you are charging your customer per hour to fix this ridiculous problem. If you charge enough, they might get to their senses. | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 20:54 | comment | added | Voo | @Michael "rewrite the whole application should not be necessary". I take it you've never worked with IE5 or suppressed the memory? The chances of any even semi complicated web site developed for IE5 working on a modern browser is.. nigh impossible. (remember activex host controls?) | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 20:38 | history | became hot network question | |||
| Jan 9, 2020 at 15:30 | answer | added | Michal Dobrzycki | timeline score: 4 | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 15:01 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackSQA/status/1215287405936246784 | ||
| Jan 9, 2020 at 13:49 | comment | added | Michael Durrant | and remember security is multi-layered. If someone 'gets thru' the outer layers, u don't want easy pickings like this lying around for the 'grabbing' | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 13:48 | comment | added | Michael Durrant | Keep driving down the specific issues, they are needed | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 13:47 | comment | added | Michael Durrant | How many people / clients / machines? When u say compatability mode, which actual browser version r they using. r u saying they are actually using v11 with compat mode for V5. and if so, what is the issue they encounter? What does the network tab say, what does console say, any errors? | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 13:28 | comment | added | Mornon | Hi Michael, so the customer uses the software solution only internally in his company, no VPN and only rudimentary access. The people who use it, however, make do with the compatibility mode, only that creates more problems than one could solve. But on the IE level, no one can work anymore. Too many bugs, and unfortunately we have to start there. I feel like a young doctor operating on a 98 year old man! | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 13:25 | answer | added | Michael Durrant | timeline score: 18 | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 13:21 | comment | added | Michael Durrant | Questions: How many clients? Where are the clients? Public or private (internal, vpn, etc.) internet ? 5000 internal clients on a private network is different from 10 external (public) clients. | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 13:18 | comment | added | Michael Durrant | Simply put- When you run it in a modern browser What problems are you encountering. If none, then the push to upgrade clients becomes stronger because it is easier. Also recommend 'chrome install' over 'IE upgrade' it will be an easier path. | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 13:16 | history | edited | Michael Durrant | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| S Jan 9, 2020 at 13:16 | history | suggested | Prome |
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| Jan 9, 2020 at 13:01 | answer | added | Kate Paulk | timeline score: 20 | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 13:00 | comment | added | Michael Durrant | networkworld.com/article/3192435/… "My mum can hack this" | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 12:58 | answer | added | Michael Durrant | timeline score: 14 | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 12:57 | comment | added | Michael Durrant | Note: rewrite the whole application should not be necessary. You are talking about web pages in a browser. What might be very hard is the current process which exploits an old insecure browser to get the job done. If the company has money or customers on the line (most do), letting the company know those risks is important. I would do that and move on. | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 12:54 | comment | added | Michael Durrant | Fair enough. I suspect you will spend a huge amount for little return. As long as you are being reimbursed that is fine. Otherwise effort might be better put into attracting other clients. | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 12:50 | comment | added | Mornon | Tell me about it, it would be cheaper to rewrite the whole solution, but no, the customer is king and he wants to have tested this 20 years old software solution. This is how I earn my money :) With the madness of this world! | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 12:48 | comment | added | Mornon | Crossbrowsertesting.com didn´t have any solution for this problem, they only have IE 8 .... | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 12:43 | comment | added | Michael Durrant | browserstack and sauce labs support versions 6+ and 8+ but not 5. In other words IE5 is twenty two+ years old. The time the company will spend on this issue will likely outweigh the time to just use a modern browser. What problems or issues exist, they should be the focus. "We just want to keep using a horse-cart, where do I get oats and who cleans the streets" is one analogy of being stubborn in the face of overwhelming change. | |
| Jan 9, 2020 at 12:39 | history | edited | Mornon |
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| Jan 9, 2020 at 12:34 | history | asked | Mornon | CC BY-SA 4.0 |